Sooo, here is an update in the Dallin drama.... On Monday of last week... Mom had Bryce call me and ask me if n8 and I can have Dallin stay at our house. I think Mom had Bryce called me because I like him more. Also, I think it is because she is afraid to ask me herself, kind of like the cookbook thing.
Anyway, I was glad that Bryce called me instead because he was rational about it. He completely understood when I told him that I didn't feel comfortable about it and that N8 didn't like the idea at all. N8 even wanted to make sure we were making the correct decision by talking to our bishop about it. He basically said that N8 is the patriarch of our home and if he doesn't have a good feeling, then we should listen to that.
I guess Mom was in the room with Bryce because I heard Mom saying things to Bryce. She kept talking to him the same time him or I were talking and I think he got frustrated and said, "Hold On..". Then he returned to the the phone and said, "Mom wants me to tell you that Kristal and Janell said that if Ben ever needed a place, then they would let him stay with them." It made me so mad to try to use Ben as leverage. I told Bryce, "First of all, out of our 9 kids, do you think that they would be Ben's first choice. Secondly, Janell has only a 2 bedroom apt and 2 kids...I dont think that she would even have the room and Kristal has no room to talk because she lives with mom and dad." It really irritated me that Mom had the guts to use that excuse...at that point I wanted to bring up the other incident with Dallin but I didnt.
I just told Bryce to tell them that we were sorry but couldnt have Dallin stay...Bryce replied, "Don't tell me sorry, I completely understand." I then told Bryce that he is more than welcome to come and live with us while Dallin lives with Mom and finds a job. Mom was completely against that and said that I was not going to raise her son. hmm!
Then I told Bryce that i understood that Mom, Janell, Kristal and maybe even Chiska will be mad at me. I told him to call me when things died down so we could come over again. I said that I probably wouldn't come over for a week or so...then Bryce said that it may be longer than that.
That was basically what happened on Monday...On Thursday, N8's friend had a guy party because he is getting married. So I thought I would call Eem and Bryce and see if they wanted to play racquetball. I called Bryce first and he sat and talked to me for about 10 minutes (which is really long for him) I was surprised and asked why he was talking to me for so long...he told me that he was bored because he was staying at Ryan's house (one of his best friends). Erggh!
I told him that he can come and stay with me, he said that he thinks that he might but mom wanted him at Ryan's because it is just a block away and closer to them. I think that is crap because we live about 2 miles away....they have only come to visit about 3 times in the last 7 months and 2 of the times was because we invited them. erggh! So, Bryce and I ended up just going to the mall and getting ice cream. Then him and Dad went bowling. He is pretty bummed about this because last Tuesday when they picked up Dallin, they basically told Bryce that he had to get his stuff and go. He came back later to grab a few more things and everyone told him that he had to go and couldn't be at home.
I haven't seen anyone at Mom and Dad's house since...on Sunday, I got a phone call from Dad...I answered cause i really miss him and can't really ask him to come over without making mom mad. He said, "Hello Stranger" I told him that I wasn't coming over until things died down and that I was too scared to come over with Kristal, Janell and Mom. He said that I had nothing to be afraid of...I think he was joking.
Then he told me that Bryce was staying at Ryan's house and I told him that Bryce can always come stay with us and then I hear Mom again in the background telling Dad to tell me the reason's why they have Bryce at Ryan's house. Dad repeated everything she told him...I was really mad because it was basically her decision and it sounds like he didn't take part in it at all..i wish he wasn't such a pushover. I then told Dad that if they needed a place for Bryce if it is longer than 2 weeks, he can come stay with us. Then mom said no and that it would only be a few weeks. After that, Dad told me not to be a stranger and come and visit because I had no reason to be scared. I told him that it would be a week or two before I came over.
Then.......Mom had Dad ask me when I was going to go to the temple with her and do some family names....erggh! There is no way that I would want to attend the temple with her and feel right about it. I have mean feelings towards her for trusting a friend more than me to give Bryce a place to live. I am upset that I feel like I cannot come over to their home and visit because I will be shunned by all the women at that house. I think it is a load of crap.
N8 doesn't know Dallin at all but looked him up in the online registry. I think he is a little freaked out that Dallin will come over and get mad at us...I know that won't happen, but we invested in a peep hole through our door to make him feel better so I don't answer the door to people I don't know or don't want to (since we have no windows there).
Well there is the update..I need a straw!!
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This whole thing is a sad sad mess.
I am so glad that you and N8 stood your ground. I will never feel comfortable and safe around Dallin. I would never trust him to live with a child or with a woman in that is not his wife. You would never let a recovering alcoholic work or live above a liquor store! It isn't fair to him to be in a position of that kind of temptation. I am so pleased that N8 spoke with his bishop and let you know how he felt. I think it is very conceivable that Dallin could get angry and come over to have some words with you both. I don't think he will at this point, because he has a place to go, and options still, but it is not out of his character at all to do something like that. I don't know that it would come to blows, but he would certainly let his feelings known. The peep hole is smart no matter how you look at it. I think every house should have a way to know who is there before answering. Also, I should say here, I don't dislike Dallin at all, I am hopeful that his family will be able to come together in time and he will become the great person I know he can... but it is not your job to get him there. It is his. And I would never put my own family at risk to raise him. Be cheerful in that at least, that you were able to stand your ground here. It's just not fair for them to ask that from the two of you to begin with. It really isn't. And, I don't think I would have Ben live with me either. I don't think it would help him to get ready to live in the world to move him in and not allow him to venture out on his own... but, I would look for housing nearby, and offer support that way. I would help him find a job and ask him to be accountable to himself, get him some counseling to help with his transition. That is what I would do for my own brother, and what I expect would be done to help our step brother as well.
It seems ridiculous to me that knowing he was coming out of jail, no one looked for an apt for him. He is an adult and should be living in his own place if he is not able to live with his own family.
I am very sad at the decision to move Bryce out. I wish that they would allow him to stay with you too. Please tell Bryce I love him.... and if Gleneen would allow it, he can come hang down here for a few weeks this summer.... I know his Girly friends won't be here, but we could make it fun too. Hug him for me. This whole thing is making me cry. I don't want him to feel "kicked" out, chosen over another child. I truly hope they get Dallin a place to live and Bryce is back home in a couple of weeks, this is unfair for him.
Well, I have more and more to say, but we have a Dr appointment for the kids, better run.
Love you much!
oh my poor girl!! Wow...wow. First of all- good job. Im proud of you. Who ever said that doing the right thing was easy..boy. Secondly, Im not going to say a lot of what Im thinking because I don't think its the right place for it so I guess I'll just try to get a hold of you.
Im happy for them, I know it must be such a wonderful and weird time for them.
Im so sorry about the dumb Bryce thing. I don't know why he doesn't just come stay with you anyway. How are they supposed to know? hee hee..I know..deceitful. hee hee..
We were writing at the exact same time!!
So anna banan, we still love you and you know they do, they're just being themselves.I just wonder that at their ages they still haven't figured out that being bitter about things never solves the problem. Nate and I support you in your decision, maybe we'll come visit soon- not this weekend cause Voice Male is coming to sing at one of the high schools and Nate is DYING to go. I have finals week week after next, we'll see if we can come then. We'll go out and have fun and Nate and N8 can have some guy down time, Nate really needs some right now... to make this whole thing interesting, he says having Dallin at the parents gives him one more reason to not only not stay there but to not visit. Sometimes he frustrates me. We saw LeAnn this weekend, and we didn't get there till 9:30 at night, so we could only talk for a little while before we were all tired, then he wanted to leave by 8 am cause his cousin's baby was being blessed. This was mainly annoying cause I see his family WAY more than mine, course his family invites us every weekend, but still, I kinda feel jilted that we drove four hours to rexburg and four hours back to essentially sleep. Anyways, sorry, stick to your guns and remember that everything simmers down over time. I would go visit the parents, but if mom or anyone starts in on you, just politely say that you won't talk to them about it till they have calmed down and WALK OUT. I know Gleneen hates it when you do it, but it's better than what you'll have to endure otherwise.
I cannot believe that I just got blog spam...I think that I will change my blog to invitees only. sorry guys
ain't it loverly? ah well, we'll be invitee only blog sisters now! ;)
I don't know the situation really, but I totally agree with you guys. :) So, when are we getting together for some super fun activities?! Let us know when you've got time! Or maybe we'll call.. well, whichever way it goes, we'll get together. :D
I agree with the Bishop. You and Nate have to make the decisions that you feel comfortable with. You are still newlyweds and your main job right now is to grow in your relationship. I am sure Dallin would feel uncomfortable living with someone he really doesn't know well. Poor kid, and I am sure Gleneen's heart is broken for him, but the best thing to do for him would be a job and an apt. That way he can start feeling like a man again. Be brave little girl, you do what is right and if Dallin does what is right, well, then he will move forward not backward. Love you lots!
cousin time!!!Annie darling, you are amazing. I can only imagine what Jonathan (my husband) would have to say if put in the same situation. He would have done exactly what your Nate did. And we would've made the same choice the pair of you have. Good for you for being so brave. You are loved and you are wise. Prayers and love your way, sweet girl. And if you go private, please include me on your list :) Laura has my email.
well..i chatted with Dallin the other day..for about an hour. I really enjoyed our conversation. It reminded me of old times. Dallin is a really fun guy to hang out with.
Personally I totally back you and N8..it is your home. I spoke with Eem about it recently (right before chatting with Dallin) and he said 'shes treating Dallin like the plague' and I said...'can you blame here?' 'she doesn't know Dallin the same way we do' 'he was out of the house a lot and had his own family when the twins were still kids'. 'i wouldn't expect her to be comfortable'
For your peace of mind...I wouldn't be concerned about Dallin. He is a pretty softhearted guy and just happy to be out. He cant wait to get out of the parents house...and sounds like it will happen sooner than later since he had a job up in SLC..well at least so Eem told me last week.
I added my comment before i read the above...
HotMamma...I totally disagree with you on the potential for Dallin to freak out. I understand why your view is biased/jaded..and in your shoes am sure I would feel the same way. Due to your.....life experiences...I do not in any way judge you for your feelings. But, I do not want Anne or N8 to feel..worried regarding retribution.
Dallin isn't stupid..he is aware that his family could've done a better job getting him a place to stay...I don't believe he cares at all that he wasn't able to stay at your place...all he seemed to be glad of is to be out.
I felt no animosity while talking on the phone with him...
I agree they should have been looking for a place to live...ages...ago.
I also agree that you shouldn't give an alcoholic an apt above the liquor store.
It torques me off that Bryce 'wanted' to live with you guys...and this option was taken away because of a family member who was so bitter that some one would do...the very thing she herself would not do. Harbor a criminal who she did not know. Imagine if she allowed Beccas old boyfriend Dave to live with them if he had just gotten out of prison (hypothetical).. she knows him..but not very well. Do you really think she would? I don't believe anyone would.
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